From StopBaptistPredators.org comes this interesting article about the failure on the part of the leadership of First Baptist Atlanta to inform the congregation that a prior children's minister who had worked at their church for 19 years had sexually abused children while on staff at at least one Texas church. While there is no evidence that anyone at FBCA knew about this man's past while he was on staff, the question is, why didn't they inform the congregation once they did know? Imagine how many children this man was in contact with during those 19 years!Yet when three representatives of S.N.A.P. tried to pass out flyers to congregants leaving the Atlanta church one Sunday, security guards tried to run them off. It's not known how much of a background check, if any, the staff of FBCA did on Tommy Gilmore before hiring him, but with the "code of silence" so prevalent in the SBC and other denominations, it's doubtful a routine background check would have turned up anything. But people in Texas knew. Yet they said nothing.
Read more about Tommy Gilmore and his trail of victims here.
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«Oldest ‹Older 601 – 623 of 623Mean Gene said...
There are reports that the services yesterday started with no choir except for Ryan Wingo. And then before the worship service started Gaines announced Wingo's engagement to his daughter.
Can anyone confirm if this happened?
That's what happened....Was a very strange beginning for a church service..
Blog friends,
Please check in on Christa's sight and use the link in her latest post.
We need to do all we can to rid the pulpits of sexual predators.
Churchmouse asked...
Does anyone have any information on the property purchased by Bellevue last week?
The property is supposed to be used for Hispanic Outreach. Maybe BBC's
Bella Vista is expanding? Contact
Pastor, Mario Maldonado at 347-5538. Maybe he could shed a little more light?
I'm confused about RW and the choir...
explain more please.
Agent SOTL said:
Your watch should have had MY photo on it. I thought it was an especially good shot of me, taken from just the right angle, but I digress.
Agent oc says:
Ahhhaaa! In spy school, I was trained to concentrate on the digression. So...yes. Now I observe with my keen espionage eye that SG in a wig is not even close to being as pretty as you. I should have caught it right away.
Therefore I will put in a requisition for new high tech optical laser visually enhanced no predator harboring, low tolerance fence jumper, low light amener and young girl accoster special agent spectacles by Milton Bradley.
Sorry for the delay of the mission because of inferior or non existent equipment.
ps. I still don't know my secret agent number. Just sayin'.
gmommy,
It was kinda confusing when I was told about it. I don't even know why they did it like that.
The sad thing is....from my friend, she thought it was seeker sensitive run amuck again by tossing the choir.
Before the choir came out SG told all about his future Son-In-Law asking for his daughters hand in marriage and then RW played and sang several songs before the choir came in.....
gmommy asks:
Is it true or false that another requirement from BBC leadership(along with tithing) involved a committment to attend
SS AND church?
SOTL says:
If this is true, what kind of person would turn over SS#, a loyalty oath to a man, AND pledge to attend SS and church?
What kind of a person would get in lock step wtih this balogney ( sorry, dr. looney, no offense meant)
I also have something to say to the youth leaders:
I am having a very difficult time explaining to my son why it is that his (former) leaders would sign a loyalty oath to a man. Do you have ANY idea how much damage you are doing to these kids who know better? They are loosing respect for you, and it seems that they have more sense than you do.
However, it is causing a ' crisis of faith' for many of them.
You appear to be hollow and empty and extremely hypocritical to these kids. You have put the parents in a very difficult situation. I want to convey to my kids how WRONG it is, but to say too much is to make them realize that their ( former) leaders are not who they have always looked up to.
You are going to have to answer for this one day, and it won't be to our kids...
so was it a way to honor RW because of the engagement or a way to do away with the choir?????
sorry I don't get it.
The sad thing is....from my friend, she thought it was seeker sensitive run amuck again by tossing the choir.
*****
Gone are the majestic days of " "send out thy light" sung by a full choir.
For the rest of my life, when/if I hear that sung, I will remember fondly BBC in the good ole days...
I thank God that he allowed me to experience that, even if for a short while.
What do you think Dr. R. would have to say about this oath to this man?
WOW...
BBC and SG loves us just the way we are!
That's what the commercial just said!
SOTL says:
If this is true, what kind of person would turn over SS#, a loyalty oath to a man, AND pledge to attend SS and church?
What kind of a person would get in lock step wtih this balogney ( sorry, dr. looney, no offense meant)
I also have something to say to the youth leaders:
I am having a very difficult time explaining to my son why it is that his (former) leaders would sign a loyalty oath to a man.
oc says:
Why would they indeed? Is it because it is attractive because it is 'more than a job, it's an adventure!'? Maybe they have heard a voice. But maybe less than a CALL?
Just wonderin'.
oc
That whole RW thing sounds embarrassing.
Worse than the tasteless sign going in the field entrance from GT pwy.
Steve,
You are correct when you spoke last night about truth, lying, and things that are secret being made known.
I believe you were preaching to yourself and your band of men who follow and swallow.
gmommy said...
so was it a way to honor RW because of the engagement or a way to do away with the choir?????
sorry I don't get it.
10:53 PM, August 06, 2007
The choir actually came in eventually. My guess...and this is strictly my opinion, is that it was to honor Wingo. Either that or figure out something for him to do while I2 is on break.
Either way, I'm glad I was not there. Call me Mr. Grumpy, but what they did seems to put Man before God. Not that I'm surprised.
Sniff ~ I haven't gotten a watch with anybody's photo yet. I'll sign a statement promising allegiance to The King if I can have a pretty watch too. And I don't mean Elvis. I heard he already left the building, smart guy!
Do I get to go bowling too? Pretty please?
Just askin'
:o)
What has happened to Chuck
( not Norris) Taylor?
He ssems to have disappeared off the face of the earth.
After the PW thing, we never heard from him again.
AS gung ho as he was about the oath a few months ago, he no doubt wasted no time in signing his loyalty oath.
Chuck, you diappoint me. I used to respect you. Now I realize that there's not much there.
Sign my covenant or stop teaching.
Sign my covenant or stop coaching.
Sign my covenant or stop singing.
Sign my covenant or stop complaining.
If you don't like secrecy at BBC, get lost.
If you don't like me operating in secrecy, get lost.
If you think you have a right to know how the church money is being spent, get lost.
Secrecy, clandestine meetings inside church leadership and government is cowardly Steve. If you actually said something correct last night, you hit the nail on the head on this one.
There is no secret kept from God.
If we ask questions about the church, call us troublemakers.
False accusations are terrible Steve. You are also correct in that you have talked yourself into believing your own words.
tn lizzie,
Your watch will arrive tomorrow by secret currier. Be sure to read the instructions about the password and secret handshake.
We wouldn't want any leaks about our clandestine meetings.
Agent SOTL
ATTENTION SHEEPS!
THE MUCH AWAITED "COVENANT" HAS NOW BEEN POSTED IN A NEW THREAD. PLEASE MOVE UP AND CONTINUE!
Thank you,
NBBCOF
tnlizzie,
You can have my watch, I can't tell time anyway. And please come to the bowling party, you can throw gutter balls with me.
Now, you know that all I have said above is in code. You can decode all this with the watch I promised you, and you can recieve this watch provided you can decode the
secret message inside your specially packaged box of Wheaties.
Once the decoding is done, you may send the decoded message to :
Agent SOTL
Master Spy
If I Tell You I'll Have To Kill You Blvd.
NY, NY. 00000H!
Good luck Agent lizzie. Don't go swimming with the fishes.
Do you think it has registered with Ms. Billie that her tithe dollars are going to support a Calvinist church??????
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