tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36564514.post116355746488378841..comments2023-08-29T04:23:57.598-05:00Comments on New BBC Open Forum: Another New Deacon Loyalty Pledge ThreadNew BBC Open Forumhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/18300115421477555376noreply@blogger.comBlogger284125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36564514.post-1163739078945263582006-11-16T22:51:00.000-06:002006-11-16T22:51:00.000-06:00YOUR ATTENTION PLEASE! AGAIN THE CURRENT THREAD H...YOUR ATTENTION PLEASE! AGAIN THE CURRENT THREAD HAS GOTTEN TOO LONG AND NEEDS TO HAVE A KNOT TIED IN IT NOW. PLEASE CONTINUE TO THE "YET ANOTHER NEW DEACON LOYALTY PLEDGE THREAD" TO CONTINUE THE DISCUSSION.<BR/><BR/>Thank you.<BR/><BR/>NBBCOFNew BBC Open Forumhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18300115421477555376noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36564514.post-1163736260012549632006-11-16T22:04:00.000-06:002006-11-16T22:04:00.000-06:00Hi Hisservant,They say you always want what you ca...Hi Hisservant,<BR/><BR/>They say you always want what you can't have, and I've got to say that I, among others, have become very curious about who you might be. <BR/><BR/>In the interest of satisfying my curiosity, I'm going to ask super-nicely if you'd consider letting us in on the big secret. <BR/><BR/>There are plenty of folks out there on both sides who've allowed their names to come out. <BR/><BR/>I promise not to slam or belittle you, I'm just really curious. <BR/><BR/>Worst case, it would put you on the same level with the rest of us peons. Best case, it'd allow folks to see your posts through what's probably a much more accurate lens since they wouldn't be making as many assumptions.<BR/><BR/>Though I'm afraid this may meet with the ol' "Get used to disappointment" line, I merely ask because I'm just so very curious.<BR/><BR/>Cheers,<BR/>Josh ManningCustoshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11684484144662597420noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36564514.post-1163735460876640542006-11-16T21:51:00.000-06:002006-11-16T21:51:00.000-06:00I love my church said... Brother Bratton,I made my...<I>I love my church said... <BR/>Brother Bratton,<BR/><BR/>I made my thoughts known to the pastor and some of our deacons in a recent meeting.</I><BR/><BR/>You made it known that you "toy" with others when you don't share their viewpoint?<BR/><BR/>You made it know that you laugh at people with whom you disagree, and encourage others to do the same?<BR/><BR/><I>I feel no need to justify myself to you. </I><BR/><BR/>I wouldn't dream of asking you to do so. I just wanted to see, live and in person, how you and your friends behave at church, clustered around a computer mocking someone you don't know.<BR/><BR/><I>TRUTHHOUND said... <BR/>TODAY I CAME HERE AND I WIRNESSED<BR/><BR/>I love my church openly sinned against his sevant.<BR/><BR/>Mike Bratton has openly sinned against I love my church.<BR/><BR/>his servant openly sinnned against I love my church.<BR/><BR/>mkw openly sinned against I love my church<BR/><BR/>The bible stands against each of you for the different sins you have committed here today, <BR/><BR/>like<BR/><BR/>making fun of others, bullying others, mimicing others. threatning others, being hatefull, arguementative, being unruly, baiting others or being a stumbling block, being prideful, exhibiting vanity, causing division, overlooking sin the pulpit, back stabbing, biting, and not doing to others as you would have them do to you, and the list goes on.<BR/><BR/>Not one of you are helping Bellevue to heal today.<BR/>PLease consider your sin and repent. </I><BR/><BR/>When warning people away from counterproductive behavior becomes sinful, whoever you are, you be sure and let me know.<BR/><BR/>Last I checked, those of us who are Christians <I>are</I> sinners, saved by the grace of God. As far as any specific sins flying around here are concerned, a general "the Bible stands against you" doesn't really "git 'er done," as the kids say.<BR/><BR/>--MikeAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36564514.post-1163735378974939022006-11-16T21:49:00.000-06:002006-11-16T21:49:00.000-06:00hisservant,It's a simple question really. Are you...hisservant,<BR/><BR/>It's a simple question really. Are you or are you not a deacon? A simple "yes" or "no" will suffice.<BR/><BR/>Thanks.New BBC Open Forumhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18300115421477555376noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36564514.post-1163735240857705552006-11-16T21:47:00.000-06:002006-11-16T21:47:00.000-06:00"we" referred to those behind Brother Steve, not j..."we" referred to those behind Brother Steve, not just Deacons. i am NOT married to anyone or related to anyone on staff etc etcAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36564514.post-1163735094303146012006-11-16T21:44:00.000-06:002006-11-16T21:44:00.000-06:00Ezekiel,"Psalms 119:21 Thou hast rebuked the proud...Ezekiel,<BR/><BR/>"Psalms 119:21 Thou hast rebuked the proud [that are] cursed, which do err from thy commandments."<BR/><BR/>Are you aware that the Psalmist is referring to the Almighty's judgement in this verse? <BR/><BR/>Are you cursing your brother? Think carefully before you answer, my friend.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36564514.post-1163734845517470662006-11-16T21:40:00.000-06:002006-11-16T21:40:00.000-06:00mostlylurkin wrote:"HisServant said... housewife: ...mostlylurkin wrote:<BR/><BR/><I>"HisServant said... <BR/>housewife: no I do not work for Brother Steve. No, i am not a 'yes man' and no, I am not a blind follower of him or anyone else. never have been and never will be.<BR/><BR/>"REPLY: I am NOT CHUCK or Brother Steve etc etc etc etc etc." <BR/><BR/>Hisservice....how about, are you related (as in married) to anyone on staff or in leadership at Bellevue?"</I><BR/><BR/>Interesting thought, lurkin. He's never denied he's a deacon. And perhaps a deacon in high places if this is any indication:<BR/><BR/>hisservant wrote:<BR/><BR/><I>"<B>we</B> answer the credit card issues and they still some how some way still find a way to have issues. they say they still have questions.</I><BR/><BR/>NASS isn't a stupid sheep either.New BBC Open Forumhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18300115421477555376noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36564514.post-1163734523883897802006-11-16T21:35:00.000-06:002006-11-16T21:35:00.000-06:00ezekiel: all I can say is that the picture you ju...ezekiel: all I can say is that the picture you just painted is way off base. i am saddened you have those views. you want to get to know some of those "business" men you are talking about. they are some of the most God fearing, humble men I have ever met.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36564514.post-1163733553038068512006-11-16T21:19:00.000-06:002006-11-16T21:19:00.000-06:001 Corinthians 4:3-5"I care very little if I am jud...1 Corinthians 4:3-5<BR/>"I care very little if I am judged by you or by any human court; indeed, I do not even judge myself. My conscience is clear, but that does not make me innocent. It is the Lord who judges me. Therefore judge nothing before the appointed time; wait till the Lord comes. He will bring to light what is hidden in darkness and will expose the motives of men's hearts. At that time each will receive his praise from God."Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36564514.post-1163730553922648372006-11-16T20:29:00.000-06:002006-11-16T20:29:00.000-06:00nbbcof,Think maybe it's time to start a new thread...nbbcof,<BR/>Think maybe it's time to start a new thread?...I've got cable and it's taking a while to load this puppy..LOL. Blessings.allofgracehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17885273980023518290noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36564514.post-1163730525081875032006-11-16T20:28:00.000-06:002006-11-16T20:28:00.000-06:00Proverbs 15:1"A gentle answer turns away wrath, bu...Proverbs 15:1<BR/>"A gentle answer turns away wrath, but a harsh word stirs up anger."<BR/><BR/>Proverbs 16:21<BR/>"The wise in heart will be called understanding, And <I>sweetness of speech</I> increases persuasiveness."Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36564514.post-1163729912621487152006-11-16T20:18:00.000-06:002006-11-16T20:18:00.000-06:00Proverbs 16:28 28 A perverse man stirs up disse...Proverbs 16:28 <BR/><BR/> 28 A perverse man stirs up dissension, and a gossip separates close friendsAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36564514.post-1163729801288653662006-11-16T20:16:00.000-06:002006-11-16T20:16:00.000-06:00Proverbs 17:9 (King James Version) 9He that covere...Proverbs 17:9 (King James Version)<BR/><BR/> 9He that covereth a transgression seeketh love; but he that repeateth a matter separateth very friends.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36564514.post-1163729468297789092006-11-16T20:11:00.000-06:002006-11-16T20:11:00.000-06:00thank you for the verse SR!!thank you for the verse SR!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36564514.post-1163729336695590312006-11-16T20:08:00.000-06:002006-11-16T20:08:00.000-06:00truthhound: can you please tell me what I said to...truthhound: can you please tell me what I said to I love my church that was a sin??<BR/><BR/>also, the long list you posted, would apply to you and everyone else on this board. everyone.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36564514.post-1163729215531828252006-11-16T20:06:00.000-06:002006-11-16T20:06:00.000-06:00MKW,My suggestion:Colossians 3:12-17"Therefore, as...MKW,<BR/><BR/>My suggestion:<BR/><BR/>Colossians 3:12-17<BR/>"Therefore, as God's chosen people, holy and dearly loved, clothe yourselves with compassion, kindness, humility, gentleness and patience. Bear with each other and forgive whatever grievances you may have against one another. Forgive as the Lord forgave you. And over all these virtues put on love, which binds them all together in perfect unity. Let the peace of Christ rule in your hearts, since as members of one body you were called to peace. And be thankful. Let the word of Christ dwell in you richly as you teach and admonish one another with all wisdom, and as you sing psalms, hymns and spiritual songs with gratitude in your hearts to God. And whatever you do, whether in word or deed, do it all in the name of the Lord Jesus, giving thanks to God the Father through him."Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36564514.post-1163727312987678272006-11-16T19:35:00.000-06:002006-11-16T19:35:00.000-06:00hisservant,May I share a passage with you?2 Corint...hisservant,<BR/><BR/>May I share a passage with you?<BR/><BR/>2 Corinthians 12:9,10<BR/>"But he said to me, 'My grace is sufficient for you, for my power is made <I>perfect in weakness</I>.' Therefore I will boast all the more gladly about my <I>weaknesses</I>, so that Christ's power may rest on me. That is why, for Christ's sake, I delight in weaknesses, in insults, in hardships, in persecutions, in difficulties. For when I am weak, then I am strong."Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36564514.post-1163725964246761592006-11-16T19:12:00.000-06:002006-11-16T19:12:00.000-06:00I would like to explain my feelings on this issue ...I would like to explain my feelings on this issue in a kinder, gentler way. In a way that will reveal my heart, more than my mind.<BR/><BR/>This is what this says to a rather large group of us.<BR/><BR/>"Look here you wounded, hurting, bleeting sheep, we have staffs and we will use them, we have used them before, so get out of the fold."Timhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04979928660354074303noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36564514.post-1163725570890508582006-11-16T19:06:00.000-06:002006-11-16T19:06:00.000-06:00Healingbalm: I do not see the same things when re...Healingbalm: I do not see the same things when reading posts from MKW etc. I do understand your point though. the fact is there are many on the board that do not want to hear anything from me, MKW or anyone else that is for Brother Steve. I have been disrespected, made fun of, threatened etc etc etc since coming to this board. most have a wall up and anything other than juicy gossip and new info against Brother Steve, they refuse to hear it. they have their minds made up. this is one reason I? do not even think their "business meeting" would work. it would go n for hours and hours and they would not be satisfied. <BR/><BR/>we answer the credit card issues and they still some how some way still find a way to have issues. they say they still have questions.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36564514.post-1163725158150094292006-11-16T18:59:00.000-06:002006-11-16T18:59:00.000-06:00It is amazing to me that this "purely political" "...It is amazing to me that this "purely political" "show of strength" is going to be used, and will do nothing but further divide our church. It is wrong. It is Biblically wrong. It is Spiritually wrong. It is Morally wrong. Politically correct perhaps, wrong in every other regard.Timhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04979928660354074303noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36564514.post-1163724666821664232006-11-16T18:51:00.000-06:002006-11-16T18:51:00.000-06:00HisServant,I believe that you can find exactly whe...HisServant,<BR/><BR/>I believe that you can find exactly where I stand on this issue.Timhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04979928660354074303noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36564514.post-1163724342876215342006-11-16T18:45:00.000-06:002006-11-16T18:45:00.000-06:00karen posted: Does it or does it not say in the l...karen posted: Does it or does it not say in the last sentence: "We publicly demonstrate our loyalty to Pastor Gaines by signing our name to this motion and standing before the Church congregation in each of the morning worship services on November 19, 2006.“<BR/><BR/>DEMONSTRATE OUR LOYALTY TO PASTOR GAINES - Sounds like a loyalty promise, oath, declaration, pledge, vow, assurance, statement, pronouncement, affirmation to me - you choose a word for it. It's all the same thing.<BR/><BR/><BR/><BR/>REPLY: yes, that is correct. it is reaffirming what Deacons have ALREADY done. if there is a Deacon that has an issue with it, then they should have had a problem with becoming a Deacon in the first place. you and others are twisting this big time and making it something it is not. like most of the other issues. you see what you want to see. <BR/><BR/>and it is not all the same thing. FAR from. loyalty and layalty oath or oath are two very very different things. Mike, Derrick, and myself have explained this several times in the last few days. <BR/><BR/>Derrick went into great detail in the past and actually posted what Deacons already agreed to etc.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36564514.post-1163724257756566602006-11-16T18:44:00.000-06:002006-11-16T18:44:00.000-06:00"Beloved let us love "ONE ANOTHER", for love is of..."Beloved let us love "ONE ANOTHER", for love is of God and everyone that loveth is born of God. And he that loveth not, knoweth not God, for God is love" I John 4:7-8Timhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04979928660354074303noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36564514.post-1163723942967963952006-11-16T18:39:00.000-06:002006-11-16T18:39:00.000-06:00ILMC,Thank you for honoring our Lord with your apo...ILMC,<BR/><BR/>Thank you for honoring our Lord with your apology. May others follow your example.<BR/><BR/>Psalm 51:17 "The sacrifices of God are a broken spirit; a broken and contrite heart, O God, you will not despise."Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36564514.post-1163723345617082242006-11-16T18:29:00.000-06:002006-11-16T18:29:00.000-06:00mkwYou signed the last post I read of yours, - In ...mkw<BR/><BR/><BR/>You signed the last post I read of yours, - In Christian Love<BR/><BR/>I wish you would go back and read some of things that you have said in the various threads contained within the new bbc and just pray about whether your words have been healing words for the body of Christ.<BR/><BR/>I am sorry to tell you that since reading many of your posts I do find you to be harsh. <BR/><BR/>I think some of the things you say are contributing to the problems at Bellevue and adding burdens to some in this group of people.<BR/><BR/>You have often ganged up with other brash and rude people, like Mike Bratton and hisservant to whip or beat the sheep.<BR/><BR/>When I see your name or Mike`s name come up, I have to put a mental seatbelt on before I go on to read whatever you have to say because you have been so harsh. <BR/><BR/>I think there is plenty of toom for you to tone down your own posts in the future so that no one has to feel attacked by your words.<BR/><BR/>Please just go back and read your words and see if you are a help or a hinderance to helping to mend the broken fences at Bellevue.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com