tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36564514.post6476247351858273208..comments2023-08-29T04:23:57.598-05:00Comments on New BBC Open Forum: The Patient is in Critical Condition!New BBC Open Forumhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/18300115421477555376noreply@blogger.comBlogger525125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36564514.post-11582902616585562602007-02-14T16:35:00.000-06:002007-02-14T16:35:00.000-06:00This comment has been removed by the author.David Hallhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00558679145059858491noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36564514.post-58177789591021140822007-02-14T16:32:00.000-06:002007-02-14T16:32:00.000-06:00New BBC Open Forum said... Mike,This is your last ...<I>New BBC Open Forum said... <BR/>Mike,<BR/><BR/>This is your last warning. Cut the you-know-what or I'll start deleting your posts. All you want to do is argue. It's pointless.<BR/><BR/>NBBCOF </I><BR/><BR/>Nice to see that you censored yourself. <BR/><BR/>And if I may, it's never "pointless" to encourage people to greater accountability and responsibility.<BR/><BR/>Did you get my e-mail? I tried again at 9:13 this morning. But with your clairvoyance, you probably knew that already.<BR/><BR/><I>Just</I> kidding!<BR/><BR/>--MikeMike Brattonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13145152348285384619noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36564514.post-6723200878251762542007-02-14T15:45:00.000-06:002007-02-14T15:45:00.000-06:00Mom4 gave us the following:"Lying is not simply a ...Mom4 gave us the following:<BR/><BR/>"Lying is not simply a byproduct of modern culture with which we must live. Ignorance and disrespect of truth are the shears carving away the fabric of our society.<BR/><BR/>If you look the other way you become part of the problem and not the solution. Because so many have looked away, justice is on the junk pile, righteousness is rare, and equity is evaded. God can use a single voice, however, to reverse a torrent of unrighteousness.<BR/><BR/>Stand for justice, stand for righteousness, stand for equity, and stand for truth. As you do, be confident that God will lift you up (James 4:10)."<BR/>*****<BR/>Mom4, I LOVED this. This was from Dr. Rogers? Doesn't this speak so much to our current situation. And the "God can use a single voice, however, to reverse a torrent of unrighteousness." At the moment I am wondering if the devil might have used a single voice to bring about the opposite. (And I'm not talking about my own, but rather an unknown one.) Man, that gets to me. Is this article from the "Spider Webs..." sermon, too? I was thinking that they probably have it at the Bellevue library. <BR/>****<BR/>Aslansown said the following:<BR/><BR/>"Dee, I was puzzled over your agony in the quote attribution until I heard this about Joseph. Now I understand and share your sorrow. How can we dare to have such a flippant view of that which grieves the heart of our Father?" <BR/><BR/>Aslansown, thank you for your understanding and for being in the study of the Word which enabled you to have this insight. <BR/>****<BR/>Hope Patterson said... <BR/><BR/>Dee,<BR/>"I'll be praying for you today, but I hope you're not blaming yourself for not remembering who made the statement about 'holy ground.' Dr. McKinley is an extraordinarily humble man, and he has a way of delivering a great message without making a lasting impression about himself. The fact that you didn't remember him is just a testament to his preaching style." <BR/><BR/>Hope, thank you for praying for me today. It is important. There is something going on in me after your revelation this morning about the quote, and I still don't know what it is all about even after praying. I am going to continue praying until I get my answer, though. I think what you have said here about David McKinley's being so humble might be part of the answer. The reason the "standing on holy ground" always echoed through my soul was because I knew it was said sincerely when I had heard it, and because NOW I know it was NOT attributed to the right man in my mind. Now I am wondering if someone misinformed Dr. Rogers, too, about who had said it while he was gone and maybe it influenced HIS thinking. Then, when Dr. Rogers said that to me about Steve Gaines, I thought he was attributing the quote to Dr. Gaines. Therefore, this incorrect thinking would have influenced both of us and I don't know how many more. It is so strange. That whole time frame is coming back to me now. I remember how we had all those different pastors come in that summer of 2001 since the church had given Dr. and Mrs. Rogers the whole summer off for vacation. The World Trade Center was destroyed September 11, just a couple of weeks after Dr. Rogers had stood below it and looked skyward. All strange. <BR/><BR/>I am in sackcloth and ashes over this. I am afraid that the humility we all wanted in a pastor/leader was in David McKinley and he wasn't even given the time of day. Keep praying everyone. Pray fervently. I think an answer is coming.<BR/><BR/>Dee2006huldahhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01397738388665337376noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36564514.post-37461953197350948382007-02-14T14:33:00.000-06:002007-02-14T14:33:00.000-06:00ATTENTION!A NEW THREAD HAS BEEN STARTED, SO PLEASE...ATTENTION!<BR/><BR/>A NEW THREAD HAS BEEN STARTED, SO PLEASE CONTINUE YOUR DISCUSSIONS THERE.<BR/><BR/>Thank you,<BR/><BR/>NBBCOFNew BBC Open Forumhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18300115421477555376noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36564514.post-26467655750877384912007-02-14T14:32:00.000-06:002007-02-14T14:32:00.000-06:00Oh, sorry. I didn't realize you couldn't order th...Oh, sorry. I didn't realize you couldn't order them separately.<BR/><BR/>Bellevue's library catalog shows a <A HREF="http://216.84.132.88/FullDisp?itemid=08003128&slUrl=ExpertSearch%3FSF0%3DSnake%26ST0%3DZ" REL="nofollow">copy</A>.New BBC Open Forumhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18300115421477555376noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36564514.post-16885025676553364372007-02-14T14:18:00.000-06:002007-02-14T14:18:00.000-06:00socwork: I'll be here....don't cry....we can talk ...socwork: I'll be here....don't cry....we can talk all night!concernedSBCerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07725854858594901438noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36564514.post-79720962621881252802007-02-14T14:13:00.000-06:002007-02-14T14:13:00.000-06:00NASS, That website had a great set of the heritag...NASS, <BR/> That website had a great set of the heritage series, but the entire set was $70 - I was looking for a single tape. I will check around some more - although I could use a listen to the entire set - it looked like just what we need!!<BR/>Thanks!MOM4https://www.blogger.com/profile/05135604848649554169noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36564514.post-23032514459591767172007-02-14T14:07:00.000-06:002007-02-14T14:07:00.000-06:00mom4,Try here.mom4,<BR/><BR/>Try <A HREF="http://www.idlewild.org/templates/cusidlewild2/details.asp?id=21822&PID=59021" REL="nofollow">here</A>.New BBC Open Forumhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18300115421477555376noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36564514.post-26280675335693496972007-02-14T14:01:00.000-06:002007-02-14T14:01:00.000-06:00alphasenior,Yes, that is the same David McKinley. ...alphasenior,<BR/><BR/>Yes, that is the same David McKinley. I believe his title is 'teaching' pastor, but his duties are the same as associate pastor.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36564514.post-89573517634656749962007-02-14T13:45:00.000-06:002007-02-14T13:45:00.000-06:00Are you speaking of David McKinley who is associat...Are you speaking of David McKinley who is associate pastor of Prestonwood Baptist Plano (Dallas) Tx? His Father Harold is a long time BBC member.alphaseniorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08216925696152124143noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36564514.post-7230570051142565132007-02-14T13:40:00.000-06:002007-02-14T13:40:00.000-06:00A kind soul found the Dr Rogers sermon I am talkin...A kind soul found the Dr Rogers sermon I am talking about. It is “Snake Eggs, Spider Webs and Traffic Jams” preached 8-7-88.<BR/><BR/>If anyone has a copy or access to one, please let me know!<BR/><BR/>Thank you Kind Soul! I appreciate your efforts!MOM4https://www.blogger.com/profile/05135604848649554169noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36564514.post-65644052119321481332007-02-14T13:16:00.000-06:002007-02-14T13:16:00.000-06:00Yes, Happy Valentine's Day everyone!I hope you all...Yes, Happy Valentine's Day everyone!<BR/><BR/>I hope you all have fun plans for the evening.<BR/><BR/>For those of us who don't, we'll... um... we'll be here. <BR/><BR/>Don't worry about us though. I mean, really, don't even think about us... <BR/><BR/>We'll... uh... we'll be ok. *sniff*socworkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04927251130694709619noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36564514.post-37699694085971119932007-02-14T12:56:00.000-06:002007-02-14T12:56:00.000-06:00The 60 day window for the DCS investigation should...The 60 day window for the DCS investigation should be up any day now. Does anyone remember when that report/investigation was initiated?socworkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04927251130694709619noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36564514.post-65972341827136012682007-02-14T12:41:00.001-06:002007-02-14T12:41:00.001-06:00Dee,I started at Bellevue in the mid 90s, and I di...Dee,<BR/><BR/>I started at Bellevue in the mid 90s, and I didn't know that much about Ken Whitten. A friend told me that he is much better known than David because he was on staff. Even so, he still wasn't very high on the pulpit committee's list.<BR/><BR/>I'll be praying for you today, but I hope you're not blaming yourself for not remembering who made the statement about 'holy ground.' Dr. McKinley is an extraordinarily humble man, and he has a way of delivering a great message without making a lasting impression about himself. The fact that you didn't remember him is just a testament to his preaching style.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36564514.post-13934300601121441432007-02-14T12:41:00.000-06:002007-02-14T12:41:00.000-06:00i'm really gone now. No, I really mean it. (said p...i'm really gone now. No, I really mean it. (said patheticly)aslansownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11266040907716618299noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36564514.post-90038399210059015092007-02-14T12:38:00.000-06:002007-02-14T12:38:00.000-06:00I THINK I'LL JUST GO AND HAVE A pathetic LUNCH.I THINK I'LL JUST GO AND HAVE A pathetic LUNCH.aslansownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11266040907716618299noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36564514.post-52731106135771267052007-02-14T12:34:00.000-06:002007-02-14T12:34:00.000-06:00FACTS! I DON'T NEED NO STINK'N FACTS!I JUST I KNOW...FACTS! I DON'T NEED NO STINK'N FACTS!I JUST I KNOW I'M RIGHT, THAT'S WHAT!aslansownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11266040907716618299noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36564514.post-46527524835956502872007-02-14T12:18:00.000-06:002007-02-14T12:18:00.000-06:00aslansown,Uh... thanks. Heh heh. Now, can you pr...aslansown,<BR/><BR/>Uh... thanks. Heh heh. Now, can you provide me with FACTS?<BR/><BR/>Yeah... didn't think so.New BBC Open Forumhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18300115421477555376noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36564514.post-24637812799809893812007-02-14T11:55:00.000-06:002007-02-14T11:55:00.000-06:00Mom4- AMEN!Mom4- AMEN!concernedSBCerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07725854858594901438noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36564514.post-89086061422553463422007-02-14T11:51:00.000-06:002007-02-14T11:51:00.000-06:00Dee said..."This is really hitting me hard. I am t...Dee said...<BR/>"This is really hitting me hard. I am trying to figure out why this is impacting me in my soul so hard--right now and at this very moment. There is definitely a deep sorrow there. I have never experienced this feeling before. I must go pray."<BR/><BR/>There is a deep spiritual burden on us right now - we must all pray and pray hard. If the truth is not presented for all to see, then Bellevue will be on the junk pile with the rest of the apostate churches in America. Those that do not realize how important the truth and righteousness are to God, have no concept of His sovereignty or His grace. This Holy God we serve will not allow us to go on in darkness and sin if we are truly saved. There WILL be justice and there WILL be accountability and it WILL be from Him.<BR/> I see so many who are willing to say that peace and forgiveness are more important that truth and justice. <BR/> We serve a jealous God. I do not want to be on the receiving end of His wrath because I failed to follow His Word.MOM4https://www.blogger.com/profile/05135604848649554169noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36564514.post-63888705168516642252007-02-14T11:38:00.000-06:002007-02-14T11:38:00.000-06:00Hope,I've gone to Bellevue for 28 years, and I did...Hope,<BR/><BR/>I've gone to Bellevue for 28 years, and I didn't know David McKinley. Ken Whitten was a household word back when we first started going to Bellevue--not David McKinley, though. <BR/><BR/>This is really hitting me hard. I am trying to figure out why this is impacting me in my soul so hard--right now and at this very moment. There is definitely a deep sorrow there. I have never experienced this feeling before. I must go pray.<BR/><BR/>Dee2006huldahhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01397738388665337376noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36564514.post-49601400449908499792007-02-14T11:26:00.000-06:002007-02-14T11:26:00.000-06:00NASS,Mom4 and I already know about "Snakes in the ...NASS,<BR/><BR/>Mom4 and I already know about "Snakes in the Garden" because that was just on LWF yesterday. It was about apostasy.<BR/><BR/>Now, I see that what Mom4 is looking for is actually about 'judgement' not 'judging'. It had those icky things in the title, though. Can you find it?<BR/><BR/>Dee2006huldahhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01397738388665337376noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36564514.post-25264543681131179002007-02-14T11:24:00.000-06:002007-02-14T11:24:00.000-06:00SOCWORK:Just felt the need for a (Iknow) little hu...SOCWORK:<BR/>Just felt the need for a (Iknow) little humor on this cloudy morning.<BR/>I just finished listening to David Jeremiah talking about the life of Joseph. One very poignant item in his discussion of what made Joseph a great man was that Joseph was still shocked at sin. In fact, he called what Potifer's wife asked of him a detestible thing to bring before God.<BR/>Anyone remember a similar attitude toward sin expressed by the IC or from the pulpit?<BR/>Dee, I was puzzled over your agony in the quote attribution until I heard this about Joseph. Now I understand and share your sorrow.<BR/>How can we dare to have such a flippant view of that which grieves the heart of our Father?aslansownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11266040907716618299noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36564514.post-11235508030741718022007-02-14T11:12:00.000-06:002007-02-14T11:12:00.000-06:00Dee, Don't be so hard on yourself. David McKinley...Dee, <BR/><BR/>Don't be so hard on yourself. David McKinley is just as well known as Ken Whitten at Bellevue, but neither were seriously considered as far as I know. I submitted David's name for consideration, and I know at least 2 others who did too. He seemed like such a natural choice. Memphis State and MABTS graduate, great preaching style. The pulpit committee felt otherwise, though.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36564514.post-83991269476358475542007-02-14T11:10:00.000-06:002007-02-14T11:10:00.000-06:00Well aslansown, it was nice knowin' ya...Just kidd...Well aslansown, it was nice knowin' ya...<BR/><BR/>Just kidding, that was funny. :)<BR/><BR/>And thanks everyone for the updates on my question from last night.socworkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04927251130694709619noreply@blogger.com